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  GB Says You Can Fellowship Without Being Reinstated

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is another way to fellowship with your loved ones after disagreeing with the wt besides getting reinstated.

  all you have to do is fling yourself off a boat and start drowning, says watchtower:.

  "suppose, then, a member of a christian congregation boating on a lake were to see another boat containing a disfellowshiped person capsize, throwing the disfellowshiped one into the water where he struggled to stay afloat.

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  neat blue dog

  This is so bizarre. All these need to be publicized and their trashy lying lawyers need to be called out to their face when trying to put a spin on things in court.
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  Call me Suspicious, but ...

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  when the president is going somewhere to talk about an infrastructure bill, and wants support for ever more endless spending, some of which is for bridge reconstruction, having a bridge collapse on the very day and in the very place he's going just seems "too perfect", doesn't it?.

  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60173771.

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  neat blue dog

  Something similar happened with a climate change press conference. I don't have the link for it at the moment, but they chose the hottest day and made sure the air conditioning was shut off.
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  The Song of the Governing Body!

  by WatchtowerHelp.club in

  1. social
  2. humour

  after months of rehearsals [except, evidently for one member], the governing body of jehovah's witnesses proudly performs their latest hit song!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdyhh827ybq.

  complete, annotated lyrics: https://www.watchtowerhelp.club/sgb.html.

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  neat blue dog

  That was pretty hilarious, and yet the words were really thought provoking! I love the part where Stephen Lett is accidentally riding his sword and holding up his horse at 2:25 🤣
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  Turning up The Insanity To 11

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so a jw elder acquaintance sent me an email "encouraging" me to return to the organization, including this little nugget of a quote from today's wt session,*** w21 november p. 23 par.

  11 how strong will your faith be?

  ***learn to trust those whom jehovah and jesus trust.

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  neat blue dog

  Somehow, in his head, this all makes perfect sense.
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  Kusserow kerfuffle

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay this is interesting.

  usually wt doesn't like to air their squabbles, but maybe they are just doing it because the new york times had a story on it (i can't read it because i'm not a subscriber).

  https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/25/arts/design/jehovahs-witnesses-nazis-lawsuit-museum.html.

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  neat blue dog

  Okay, I just found out that the ex-JW was Hans Werner Kusserow. He was interviewed in the Purple Triangles video, but I had no idea he wasn't a witness. (This video was distributed by WT but was a secular production from a European anthology TV series. Undoubtedly if WT made it he of course would not be included.)

  
  
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  Kusserow kerfuffle

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  okay this is interesting.

  usually wt doesn't like to air their squabbles, but maybe they are just doing it because the new york times had a story on it (i can't read it because i'm not a subscriber).

  https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/25/arts/design/jehovahs-witnesses-nazis-lawsuit-museum.html.

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  neat blue dog

  Okay this is interesting. Usually WT doesn't like to air their squabbles, but maybe they are just doing it because the New York Times had a story on it (I can't read it because I'm not a subscriber)

  https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/25/arts/design/jehovahs-witnesses-nazis-lawsuit-museum.html
  

  And here's the JW article:

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/germany/Jehovahs-Witnesses-Seek-Kusserow-Archive/

  Anyway, it mentions that there was an ex-JW Kusserow family member who sold the memorobilia to the military museum, do we know who that is, or if they're apostate or just your average ex?
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  It begins norway no money for wt because of shunning

  by Yomama in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  organized shunning will stop when money stops.

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  Good to hear. I will be the first to advocate for freedom of speech and religion and adherence to the US constitution, but whenever someone says that you can't have both, ie you can't legally discourage shunning and not be on a slippery slope I disagree.

  You of course can't force individuals not to shun (nor would you want to) but you CAN decide to not grant privileges to religious entities who require such behavior lest the persons themselves be shunned.

  Just like consequences for criminal threats isn't a violation of free speech, and just like not allowing a weapon for someone with a history of criminal violence isn't a violation of the right to defend oneself, so too this wouldn't be a violation of religious freedom. In fact it would be a defense of it seeing as millions aren't free to worship or not worship the way they choose, being held hostage based on explicit organizational instructions.
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  New WT on "Hate" is actually a little bit based

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new public wt on hate, especially racial hate just came out and seeing as how left-leaning the org is in regards to so many non-sexual things (like mandates and lockdowns, guns, war, patriotism, freedom of thought and speech, climate change, etc.

  ) i was fully expecting the magazine to lean into the media lies of black victimhood, etc.

  however was pleasantly surprised to see a few valid thoughts, such as this opening image of everything seemingly being blamed on the white man.. .

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  White bethel lives mater

  They do! Wasting it all for a parasite. Hope they wake up.
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  Biblical Anachronisms in JW Literature

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a recent post ffghost made a comment about how they're always inserting modern concepts into biblical narratives to make it relatable to jw's organization.

  here are some that come to mind:.

  - the capitalized term "governing body" when referring to the older men in jerusalem (really just another group of christians that paul outspokenly disagreed with and didn't look to for approval).

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  neat blue dog

  "Jesus s(h)aves. "

  "Yesh, he doesh"

  
  
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  New WT on "Hate" is actually a little bit based

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the new public wt on hate, especially racial hate just came out and seeing as how left-leaning the org is in regards to so many non-sexual things (like mandates and lockdowns, guns, war, patriotism, freedom of thought and speech, climate change, etc.

  ) i was fully expecting the magazine to lean into the media lies of black victimhood, etc.

  however was pleasantly surprised to see a few valid thoughts, such as this opening image of everything seemingly being blamed on the white man.. .

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  neat blue dog

  Oh okay. Except one is realistic and one isn't.